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You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. I installed the latest version of the very expensive Koni shocks, I am pleased with them. I find a stiff suspension great for handling on a smooth road, but not desirable on rough, broken pavement, poorly maintained highways. Ford : F-350 XLT 1997 ford f 350 xlt 7.3 l powerstroke crew cab 4 x 4 only 66 k actual miles. We certainly appreciate the performance, handling and braking capabilities of diesel coaches. 2004 newmar dutch star motorhome salvage used parts for sale visone rv Call VisoneRV Today: (606) 843-9889 Our great success and countless h Class C Motor Home, Ford, 6.8L, Kit. I did the same mods without the steering stabilizer. New AGM battery in last two years. Thank you so much for sharing your experience! I thought this was how a large Class C was supposed to handle. No tools were required, just a trip to the roof to snap the extra antenna element in place. Lippert Center Point Air-Ride RV Suspension System. So hearing you experienced no fatigue after a 1,000 mile drive and your coach is a joy to drive is very useful for others reading this, and we can reference your experience when asked by others. Dinette sleeps two small adults or children. Not Yet Reviewed. When you read it youll understand why. Its one of the many reasons for the big ($50k-$100K) price difference of Gas vs Diesel coaches. Get a New RV Mattress 2. If you end up going there, please tell him we said hi and we still love them! I just saw a 2021 3010 DS on a dealers web site and it is showing equipped with Bilstien and Helwig components. RV HACKS: 400+ Ways to Make Life on the Road Easier, Safer and More Fun! There are size, weight, and load range differences. I just added a safe t plus stabilizer. My coach is a joy to drive! There are many different things that can improve the ride of any chassis. MSRP for the package is $2175 on their 6.15.20 build sheet. After the upgrades, I did a 1500 mile round trip towing a 22 foot race car trailer and another 1200 mile round trip with a Jeep Wrangler Sport S 2 door toad behind me. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. I dont feel like the Sumo springs made it worse. Sprinter 3500 Class-C RV + Chassis Upgrades. As if I didnt already enjoy driving the RV beforenow it is much more relaxing. Upgrade your Anti-Sway Bars For a safe and stable ride December 14, 2016 Most gas powered Class C and Class A motorhomes today are built upon a stock Ford or Chevy truck chassis. Apparently there are similar products for class C motorhomes, certain diesel motorhomes, Super C's and most Gas RV models (the tech said if you're in a Freightliner Chassis RV you probably won't need any of these stabilizers). Happy Travels! Roadmaster Rear Sway Bar for Tiffin Powerglide Chassis 1249-102 SKU: 1249-102 $995.00 $1,094.50 Sale! Marc shares his thoughts and research on the various suspension upgrade options. Here we list out 10 of the best class C RVs of all sizes for you to choose from. Good condition, new tires, $4000 in suspension upgrades. But its also important that our home on wheels is reliable and comfortable. Belmont Diesel is only 7.5 miles and a 15 minute drive from Red Bay. It drives like cr*p. We are full timers, having graduated last fall from living in and pulling a 9,500lb 25' Bigfoot bumper pull trailer behind an F-350 diesel 44 for 4-1/2 years to a Class A motorhome. Don't skip this Paul Pamela Life 2.7K subscribers Subscribe 9.2K views 2 years ago SUSPENSION UPGRADES USED: Helwig. Bilstein Shock Absorbers We truly appreciate the content you provide on Youtube and are just now diving into your blog and new (sexy) web page. Congratulations on your new purchase! But we kept our research focused on finding affordable solutions that came highly reviewed by other gas RV owners with coaches built on the same Ford F53 chassis that we have. If you hit a big pothole the whole inside of the coach will rattle until you think its coming apart. Yes, if you are mechanically minded and have the tools, space and time to do it, you can install SumoSprings yourself. We stock truck suspension parts for all makes and models of motorhomes, RV's, pickup trucks, SUV's and Semi-trucks and trailers including Ford, Chevy, Dodge, Freightliner, Honda, International, Kenworth, GMC, Mack, Nissan , Sterling, Toyota, Volvo and more. Low Pressure Switch. 8) Digital TV Antenna Add-on. I just replaced mine after 30k miles with the new blue and silver comfort track Bilsteins and that improved the ride as well. Just a bit more or less can make a difference. Please forgive the road hum, as we filmed this video while driving across I-70 WB in Kansas. You'll also find high-quality radiator upgrades and high-performance charge-air coolers. I have changed sway bar setting which help with sway.i have a 30 foot fleetwood class A no slides 2003 . In another thread I was asking for feedback from anyone who had a LiquidSpring rear suspension on an E450, but never got any responses. Chalkboard Fridge Door 8. I dont think this will improve that aspect of your ride. I am considering some upgrades to the suspension on my 2008 E-450 Fourwinds Class C. I would like to add some sort of steering stabilizer, shocks, sway bars to improve the ride and handling. RV reviewed 2004 Newmar Essex 4502. Do we recommend them? Im planning to upgrade too in near future. This is an independent, unofficial site. Upgrading our suspension wasnt essential. Roadmaster # RM-1139-176 Front Anti-Sway Bar Kit. My next suspension upgrade will probably be Bilstein HD shocks. : https://amzn.to/2LQFuQTConnect to any water spigot! 500-Watt solar system with 300 Amp hour battery bank. It looks like the Goodyear G670 RV MRT is close in spec to the tires you have. Dont do it! Introduction MUST HAVE DIY Sprinter Class C RV Suspension Upgrades! Are we happy with them? Your Stories You can check the manufacturers websiteor contact them by email or phone for support. Marc, I just took delivery of a 2017 Tiffin Open Road with the Sumo Springs installed at the factory. Do you notice any improvement with harsh ride on bad interstate roads. This article/video were produced specifically in response to the huge amount of interest we have had from other RV owners who learned we were considering installing Sumo Springs in our Tiffin Service Repair Punch List Video. Have you done a suspension upgrade to your RV or truck? 2011 Jayco Greyhawk 31FK - 6.8L Ford Gas engine - 36000 miles on the odometer and will keep slowly climbing as we are still using it. They can be retrofitted to an older coach. We are well aware its a depreciating asset. Add to Cart. An I installed this my self. The SummoSprings feature progressive load control which will compress according to the weight of your cargo. 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RVing Tips That Will Get You Through The Winter, A Motor Generator: The Gensets Are The Most Complex System We Have, Changing Oil In A Motorhome Will Protect Your RV Investment. This is such greta info for others reading the post comments too and we can refer to your experience when asked so thanks again! After the upgrades, I did a 1500 mile round trip towing a 22 foot race car trailer and another 1200 mile round trip with a Jeep Wrangler Sport S 2 door toad behind me. The video is just under 17 minutes but it is thorough and will speak directly to many of the concerns, questions and hopes of fellow gas RV drivers (or trucks towing 5th wheels or travel trailers). BTW, I drove a 2016 Class A Ford F53 with Liquid Springs on the rear at the Chandler FMCA Convention. After the upgrades, I did a 1500 mile round trip towing a 22 foot race car trailer and another 1200 mile round trip with a Jeep Wrangler Sport S 2 door toad behind me. We have been family owned and operated since 1965. Suspension upgrades are designed to enhance load carrying ability, stabilize sway and improve overall driver control and comfort. I installed Roadmaster sway bars, Bilstein shocks and a HendersonSuper Steer track bar kit model SS450 (keeps the rear axle from swaying back and forth). Chassis Parts + Performance Packages. Ford F53 Super Duty Class A. Another vote for the 5-star tune. 1 (877) 774-6473 Home Suspension Air Bags Firestone Air Bags Ford Suspension Air Bags - Firestone Motorhome (Class C) Air Bags - Firestone Motorhome (Class C) Air Bags - Firestone Displaying 1 to 8 (of 8 products) Kodiak C4500/C5500 Class-C RV + Chassis Upgrades. The Jride suspension makes a HUGE difference in the handling of the unit, especially when compared to our old 2008 Winnebago View 24P based on a Sprinter van chassis. How Important Is It To Know That You Made The Bes, Without Understanding the VIN Number On Your Motorhome, You Won't Really Know, RV Safety: As A Comparison, Which One Is Safer On The Road? Affordability(about $1,000 lessthan some other solutions weconsidered), Zero maintenance after install (set and forget), Overwhelmingly positive feedback on results from other RVers, Motorhome Magazine and Tiffin, Confidence knowing that SumoSpringsare now a factory installed option availableon new Tiffin coaches, will compress up to 80% of their original height andstretch up to 50% of original height with full memory rebound, are leak-free andhighly resistant to oils, salts and UV rays. Are they worth it? If so, what do you think of it? F53 Class-A RV V10. Chevy 4500 chassis with 12000 miles and just replaced shocks with Bilsteins. Hi Carl, sometimes on unlevel sites the leveling jacks will bring the wheels off the ground but we just hit cancel to bring the coach back down again and drive the RV up onto leveling blocks. These Off-Road Teardrop Campers Have A Unique Sola AGM Batteriesvs Flooded Batteries: What's Be Are You Leaving Black Water In Your Tank For Too L Is An RV Renovation Project Right For You? Next the shocks were replaced with Bilsteins and the steering stabilizer also replaced with a Bilstein. Call 800-306-4016 to learn more or to schedule an appointment at your preferred location! Solar Power 4. I say this because of the shift characteristics when climbing hills. This expensive upgrade would, in fact, be hidden from view and only affect the drivability and stability of the coach. Again, almost twice as thick! Im concerned about the damage my gas coach is incurring from the rough highways of the Midwest. 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Just wonderful to have this kind of information shared with all the members and guests that drop in on the forum! Thank you, The Tri-Max 3 Flow Rate Aerator is an excellent option because it has three flow settings, 0.5 GPM, 1.0 GPM, and 1.5 GPM. I wanted to know if you experienced any issues with over extension. If youre interested in the longer answer with more detail or you are shopping around for a suspension upgrade, you will find the video extra helpful. We have over 90 years of experience developing, manufacturing, and marketing superior suspension solutions for the heavy vehicle industry. Yes we were very happy with this upgrade. In Marcs immortal words, he has less pucker factor now! Menu. First and foremost is the identification of what needs improvement. Overlanding vs RVing: What's the Difference? Since then, weve driven over 1,000 miles across 5 states in the past two weeks and we are extremely happy with how much better the coach drives. Would like to improve jittery ride suggestions welcomed. If you want to upgrade the ride and handling of your RV or truck. Expensive but well worth it, no more upside down steering wheels or being pushed whan a tractor trailer would come up along side of us. GM / Workhorse 8.1L; Ford V10 + E450 Class-C RV V10; . Don't Go RVing Without This Camping Checklist! I did a 1000 mile trip and had similar results, less body roll, and a lot better in crosswinds and with passing trucks. Copy and paste it, adding a note of your own, into your blog, a Web page, forums, a blog comment, GVWR chassis equipped with polished aluminum wheels 7.3L V8 Gas Engine (350 horsepower/468 lb.-ft. of torque) TorqShift 6-speed automatic Transmission with Tow/Haul mode We are not experts in suspension. Best of all it's totally FREE! Im so glad I did this install, and the results have been remarkable. Thank you for sharing the journey with us! RVing Trends. Significantly better handling when being passed by a tractor trailer or encountering a cross wind. After scouring RV and Tiffin owner forums and speaking to other RVers during our travels, we found that everyone has their own opinions on what is the best solution. 95,000 Miles. The best money I ever spent was at Henderson's line up!!! Good to know the new Bilsteins made a difference. There is noticeably less sway. Rarely feel the effects of a cross wind. 2. Marc feels less fatigued after long drives and in general he feels more in control of the vehicle and is less impacted by winds. No fun. New AGM battery in last two years. Why do I say this? For 2001-2002 International 4700LP Shock Absorber Rear Monroe 85284RV. According to the manufacturers website, SumoSprings: The latter was especially appealing. Why RVers Go To Mexico For Dental And More! Regardless, it seemed that no matter which way we went, we would end up with a better outcome than what we currently have. I own a 2017 Jayco Seneca. I have a 2002 39R Bounder Total cost of $1,450 including tax. LIVING THE RV LIFE: Your Ultimate Guide to Life on the Road. Posts: 23. We have a storefront in Southeast Denver, Colorado. Did you do a front end alignment after you installed the new components? You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. ljcf . CarlBrothers, that is interesting that they offer that from the factory. These we do a great job at upgrading the suspension on your 12,340 pound motorhome. But as we shared in Our Experience Driving a Gas RV video we tend to drive shorter distances, stay for longer periods and were rarely in a hurry. I am pretty sure you will never get a gas powered class A motorhome to feel as planted as the big semi-trucks you have experience with. Finally, after reading an article in Motorhome Magazine about an airless airbags solution called Sumo Springs, he got even more excited about improving the way our gas coach rides and handles. I was diligent in keeping my tires properly inflated but that wasnt the problem. The additional item I added was four Koni FSD shocks. The Sunseeker still retained the non adjustable caster bushings which were replaced with Ingalls 59400 adjustable ones. This made a remarkable difference. It will be well worth your time (at least, we think so). My big 32 ft. class C is very heavy at the rear, so I think it could use some sort of helper springs or extra leaf in the leaf springs. Designed for easy installation, Roadmaster anti-sway bars are made from cadmium plated 4130 chrome moly steel and ship complete with all necessary mounting hardware, polyurethane bushings and instructions. Cant take ur hands of the steering wheel love the coach but the steering sucks an also theres not that much play in the steering wheel while your driving it just wants to take you where u dont want to go anyone that can help me let me know please let me know, Hi LLoyd, Sorry to hear that you are still having such a unsettling time driving your coach even after all the suspension upgrades. CAT scales are easy to use. I have completed the suspension upgrades on my 2018 Sunseeker 3270 (32 foot) Class C motorhome which is on Ford E450 chassis. Thanks to a guy named "Harvard"onanother forum I got the caster set at +5 degrees positive. The 2008 Ford E 450 Has A New Grill: What Else Has Changed? RV Winterizing Is It Really All That Necessary? We had them added to our Allegro 36LA at around 10,000 miles (were at 21,000 now) and we could immediately feel the improvement, mostly in the side-to-side sway. I am veryimpressed by this. You said it best they just leave the chassis as it came from the factory, which is interesting since most often they will stretch it and overload it. While my family continued to enjoy the ride, I might be white knuckling it a bit as cross winds toss the RV around, or semi-trucks went speeding by, or while uneven roads caused the RV to bounce from side to side. While the Roadmaster anti-sway bars were good, they were also more expensive. He explored the many options available. Marc began considering this in the fall of 2015. As mentioned, there are other suspension solutions out there. Only downside of them is that they are expensive. I wouldnt want to deal with more tongue weight than I had, and I have a shorter rear overhang than you do. We noticed Tiffin had at set of SumoSprings for sale in their Parts and Supplies Store for $1,300-$1,400. willperform within temps of -25F and 200F andare 100% maintenance free fit and forget. The ride is very smooth, almost like a high end car. These mounts create an interface between metal components, helping minimize vibrations throughout your Jayco motorhome. They were able to get us in quickly, the day after our Service and Paint/Body work was completed at Tiffin. I have driven big tag axle diesel coaches. By Or maybe you can give others some advice? Ive towed my 22 open trailer (26 total length) with about 6500lbs and 650lbs tongue weight, and it affected the handling pretty badly. The LiFePO4 lithium iron phosphate deep-cycle batteries are great to use in an RV, boat or off-grid power system. The second part of the combination is a significant upgrade to the sway bar. Ford 350 chassis.4500 KW generator. When going to either a 4\" or 6\" lift you will solve all these problems in 1. This suspension upgrade is the single largest expense we have made on an RV repair/upgrade in the two years weve owned it. The Dodge Sprinter: For Those Who Want A Small, Well Appointed RV With Good Gas. Thanks all for the comments and sharing your experiences. Sway Bars & Bushings; Koni RV Shocks; . The 34PA is a great floorplan, and buying used, you would have scored a good deal compared to buying new and of course it already had the sumo/bilstein upgrades and no doubt the bugs had already been worked out. We chose the black SumoSprings made specifically for our Winnebago View's Mercedes Benz chassis. I had previously installed Heavy duty Roadmaster sway bars (front and rear), bilstein . Assembled from heavy-gauge steel and polyurethane bushings, this is a "no-drill" installation. The opinions expressed on this site are our own or from a contributor. interesting choices that can be made concerning these types of accessories. 2018 Sprinter Chassis on 2019 Forest River Sunseeker MBS 2400 W. Upgrades include, new roof, new house batteries, 4x Sumo Shocks, Agile Off-road Class C Fox Racing Rear Suspension upgrade and upgraded springs in front end. A few years ago I installed Roadmaster front and rear bars on my purchased used 2006 Coach House 23' on E450 chassis. Retail Price: $282.25. 2018 Thor 21F Four Winds Class C Motorhome, 2010 Fleetwood Pulse 24DClass C Motorhome, Above Graphics Courtesy of: http://www.DeMartini.com. Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free! . Nice write up, Ron. I wish I would have done these improvements in 2005 when I bought the rig. What To Do If Your RV Breaker Keeps Tripping, DewinterizeYour RV: A Complete Checklist. Would have been cool to see how sway bars, thne pan bar then steering each helped independly.. but that is a PIA.. The short answer is absolutely 100% YES on all counts! You have to drive it yourself. New Storage Bay Locks 9. For Sale $25,000 -1997 25' Class C Motor Home - Excellent condition. Return To Top Of Page My Seneca does not experience much if any push from passing semi's. Your weight is probably not evenly distributed side to side so allow for this insetting our pressures, for example, I could get by with 85 psi but use 90 to play it safe. Sorry to see you still have such a rough ride, but glad to hear that your other upgrades have at least improved some aspects of ride quality. How much trailer weight and tongue weight do you have? Suspension system upgrade in last two years. While we remain extremely happy with our gas coach, there have been a number of times that we both (Marc especially, being the primary driver) wished the handling was more solid and stable with less swaying, especially when entering and exiting driveways, off-camber surfaces, rough roads and in windy conditions. . Chassis and frame: Inspect trailer for fracture points, cracks, tears, or rust in the frame. These models are great for families, campers, and full-timers as . Hence why its taken us 2 years to get to this point. The front tires would need to be replaced. Before taking on any project or making a large purchase, you should do your own research and consult a professional for advice. Ford Class C Firestone Air Bags, Class C Motorhome Suspension Air Bags FIRESTONE Kits Ship 1-2 Days! Or maybe you can give others some advice? Waiting to get it weighed to see if I can lower it even more. MH's seem to be shipped with tires at max inflation. Only thing missing was my wife. Driveable, sure, but you could tell you had pulled weight off the steers. I could not be happier with the outcome and concur that the improvement is well worth the expense. Watch the video below for installation. 4. Also be sure to use the MH charts not truck charts for the specific brand tires you have. I believe the 252 inch wheel base and proper balanced loading, also plays an important roll in ride quality. Contact us: Phone - (619) 596-9831info@weldtecdesigns.com | For pricing, quotes, inquires etc social@weldtecdesigns.com | For media questions, collaborations, sponsorship etcWeldtec Designs:Web: https://weldtecdesigns.com/4\" Class C Rv Suspension Upgrade: https://weldtecdesigns.com/product/class-c-rv-suspension-lift-kit-2/6\" Class C Rv Suspension Upgrade: https://weldtecdesigns.com/product/class-c-rv-suspension-lift-kit-2/For more info on the products we use to make these awesome vans or social content check out:https://www.amazon.com/shop/weldtecdesigns Sorry, Fordfixer, I did not mean to hyjack your thread. 2. In this video Jeremy takes you through some of the key reasons on why it would benefit you a ton by lifting your Class C rv. Amazing difference in ride and handling. I purchased the Hellwig bars and Bilstein shocks and had them shipped to the house. Love the reduction in body roll and lean. Suspension upgrades make a lot of sense for high profile and heavy load vehicles. Perhaps Ill need to be the one to try it out. I believe it was a super steer unit. I recommend that you visit Henderson's web page and read through their descriptions of symptoms, causes, and remedies. Just bought a 2016 Tiffin Open Road that has the Sumo suspension installed by the previous owner. That.. or consider changing to a smaller rig like a truck and trailer. We had Belmont Diesel order the parts and bill us for parts and labor. As always, Marc aims to take a balanced approach in sharing his feedback, considering the many different options available and different needs of RVers. To accommodate the odd extra loads, my suspension and front tires were working extra hard to keep the RV stable. We want to make it very clear that we are in NO WAY affiliated with Tiffin, Super Springs (SumoSprings) or Belmont Diesel, MS and we were not paid or compensated by anyone for this article/video. RV Tires: That's Where Rubber Meets The Road! The Best Class C Rv Suspension Upgrades WeldTec Designs 24.4K subscribers 6.3K views 2 years ago In this video Jeremy takes you through some of the key reasons on why it would benefit you a ton. We suggest checking with the manufacturer Super Springsfirst to confirmwhat youll need before ordering. RV Suspension Systems 101 Coil Springs Prices increase after 2/28 $360.56 $295.00 CARB E.O. I am running 90 psi cold BUT.it is important that you weigh before you set your tire pressures for the specific load and tires that you have. Recreational Vehicle Accessories. I then took the RV to a reputable RV alignment shop to install the Bilstein shocks and perform an alignment. You could probably order the parts yourself and then simply pay for a shops labor time to install them, or do it yourself. Here's what worked for me after purchasing an 09 Sunseeker 2300 in 2012. It's a 40-foot diesel pusher with five slide outs, complete with a bathtub and washing machine. I appreciate Herman's recommendation.