christian domestic discipline testimonials

Does that make bullying okay? Out of our wounds flow compassion, understanding, & grace. Youll get prayers and someone standing with you to get rid of the bad stuff and move on. You just posted most of my rapist and fathers favorite bible verses. Been hearing about abuses for OVER 50 years. I want any other women reading this to know that your (Lone Voices) position is NOT biblical, and God created women to lead and teach men if he gifted them in those areas, and God created women to be equals with men in marriage. But I think there are probably other women in conservative or controlling Christian households where the husband thinks it is OK to spank his wife like just another child in the house. Even if I were to make a pledge, my father would have nothing to do with it. As for other men, besides the father to spank her, that isnt right. Modern psychology openly approves homosexuality. Christian Domestic Discipline - 09-23-2011, 11:08 PM. Say for example, they are asked to bring another into the relationship/marriage bed, or commit a crime, because I have heard that from women. And let me be clear what I mean by 100 percent submission. ), Lone Voice says, Personally, I read 1 Corinthians 7 render due affection to indicate that if one spouse does something to render the other unwilling or unable to do so, that is sin. After a while I learned that this was really Gods plan for the household and wanted it for myself when I was married. Wolf goes on to demandnot suggest, but demandthat you forgive. You are going to have to move to a place of forgiveness. Why? The Bible says that husbands are to submit to their wives, Eph 5:21: Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ. I think he probably smacked my bottom about 10 times (bare bottom, OTK, with his hand). (I dont have much time or interest right now to go through and read all comments left to me since I last was here, or comment on them all.) Lydia: Just saying my exegesis (please note the spelling) is wrong does not establish that it is. Or did he simply say a prayer for him and his wife, that they would be able to work it out in a godly way? But having said all that, you have something practical, but difficult, which you must do. Doesnt look like 50 Shades of Grey is going to be well-received around here! You have also obviously been influenced by kinky secular culture, such as books and films that promote S&M. A Lone Voice, you have major issues with women having the right to say NO to men. I was sexually terrorized as a little girl by a bible loving, bible verse quoting, church going southern Baptist Christian man as a little girl. The Bible advocates for stoning as do some Muslim countries. 10 Things Every Christian Husband MustUnlearn, Give Your Husband the Gift He Actually Wants forChristmas. Im very grateful to Lauren for her e-mailand being willing to shed more light into this abusive practice so that we can have more understanding of what she and many others are going through. Ben has never told me to do anything sinful I do getting spankings sometimes by other men in authority like my dad and my Minister, Ben says that OK because they are authority figures and he has given them permission to correct me. It seems that both of these components make it much more likely for a woman to be the victim of domestic violence/wife spanking. Webchristian domestic discipline; Corset Waist Training; Deep Thoughts; Exercise and Chocolate; Fiction; maintenance; marriage; my submissiveness; Orgasm Control; Pierced Nipples; Punishment; Spanking; Submission; swingers States have laws restricting contracts between two consenting adults. It really is that good. But unlike the "Cry U.S.E." You put it out there for me to read about, and Ill say something about it. I have a lot of respect for your father, and husband. Right now, you have decided that you were morally better and intellectually superior to these people and that they are in need of medical care and social assistance which is quite an arrogant position to have for someone who admits not knowing much about the topic. I dont know how wide-spread the practice was, but I remember my parents had no problem threatening me with discipline where other people from our church were within earshot and dont remember ever hearing any kind of shock or outrage from anyone else. If you are currently living (or have lived) the Christian Domestic Discipline lifestyle and you would like to share how it has helped your marriage or relationship, please email your story and mention that you wish to share your experiences with other people. Why not? My father could sit on his self worshipping bottom the whole time my mother suffered through pregnancy and birth, he did not have to dread horrific genital pain, he sure got a thrill that she did. Do you find that you need it as much or less over the last 30 years? [I then asked Lauren if shed be willing to share her story anonymously.]. Church youth group leaders would tell young ladies that modest is hottest and make it clear that exposing any kind of skin somehow made a woman loose or of a certain kind. My parents had total veto power over what I could wear. best leave 100PinkApples raging away because it suits your purpose better to have her stay unforgiving and bitter.. Since then, the most common search term whichbrings people to the blog iswife spanking. Some of the search phrases make me want to vomit. Click on the image at the top or you can click here to go BGRLearning.com to subscribe and listen to this series as well as hundreds of other biblical gender roles related podcasts. Who cares? I have neither the time (nor the talent) to write an entire book, so I'll recommend instead the following book. Christianity is about inspiring free hearts, not forcing them with laws. There are millions of non christians practicing domestic discipline, and millions of Christians practicing it too. Im so glad you found the strength to leave your abusive marriage. As far as I can see, no one in this conversation is opposed to the Bible or its teachings, but to your interpretation of them. S&M? 4 and her father hears about her vow or pledge but says nothing to her, then all her vows and every pledge by which she obligated herself will stand. I looked at Jamins left hand and his index finger nail was long enough to make the mark I saw on the right side of [redacted] neck. Have you read Marys song, known as the Magnificat? But over it all was always this sense of control and he was the man. My wedding vows included a vow to obey and he would often remind me that God commanded wives to submit and obey their husbands as they were supposed to do towards Christ. This is the right relationship for people to live in my opinion. Its not right. Wacky science isnt fooling anyone, even if people are not always able to verbalize it, they feel within themselves that something is wrong and this autism makes them explode at some point.. No woman wants to be slapped around, and certainly not because it has anything to do with not being able to find a macho man to date. to conduct what is know as Risk Assessment and from there, in conjuction with the victim, develop a personalised safety plan. Ahhh, proof-texting. Regarding Barak and Deborah: But he never swore, or acted out of control. Do not expect her to be silent through this experience though. As a society have always restricted what two consenting adults can do. If you actually are a woman, how sad that you are participating in your own second-class status and actually defending it. God made us women to serve and obey our husbands because he knows they needed help mates. Not a lot of leaders of either gender out there, but we go for the carob; controlling. In my former church, we were taught by our pastor that civil laws regarding adulthood did not apply when it came to disciplining children in our homes. Its only by bringing the two together under complete subjection to Christ by both parties that the marriage will ever be complete. Anonymous, musingsofaministerswife.com, 11. However,his spanking wasalways controlledwhichmust have made it all the more confusing to Lauren. It should be private. God doesnt love us any less than men but he made us to serve in the home. Instead, they wanted to know what I had done wrong to need to be punished and felt that I had abandoned my wedding vows when I left him. Oh brother, that was too obvious. No, you didnt misinterpret Mark 11, but I suspect you misapplied it. Sgt. Male headship is followed all over the world. It was about a year ago now. Then look up, Gods Original Plan for Marital Roles: couples are a mess, for all the talk women abuse is nowhere close to being fixed but now masculinity is also in a crisis. DavidA For example: Evil men do not understand justice, But those who seek the LORD understand all things. If not which of you 2 does? That day we were getting ready to spend the day with my parents. Please remember blog rules. When I read you, I see sincere people suffering sort of post-traumatic disorder. I get two on Sunday, one in the morning before worship, and one in the evening before bible study. I wasnt mad at my husband I knew I earned my punishment. If a man and a woman are not dating yet. BDSM is not recommended for all Christians, but safe and responsible BDSM has the potential to enhance intimacy and strengthen marriages. This will allow you to see the educational materials people use and therefore to understand their rational and mindset. Especially in situations where the woman feels something is wrong but might not think of herself as abused. My husband was only two years older (but he is close to 6 feet tall and heavily muscled and I am around 5 feet talland under 100 lbs). ;) I am neither kinky, nor a doormat. My father and his loser ilk liked Christianity because no woman with any self respect would stay married to them once she got to know the real him, have sex with him, or have children with him. campaign, Christian Domestic Discipline/Loving Wife Spanking in a Christian Marriage is not satire -- and I just can't get it out of my head. . What Is The Husbands Role In Christian Domestic Discipline? There is a judge and there is a criminal, the judge proclaims a sentence against the criminal which is carried out. Good intentions yield more good intentions. I dont remember a bible verse where Jesus said I had to be (bad word) against my will. I think nobody bothered to really answer because your self-proclaimed moral superiority, and arrogant psychiatric doctor tone make you guys look close-minded and beyond hope. His mother had passed away long ago and his father died shortly after our wedding and I never got to talk to him much. Anderson saying, Its not common for someone to hurt themselves because theyre desperate for their husbands attention and their husbands not giving them the love they need and so they wack themselves. Calling it just a spanking in some ways covers up what is going on, I think. Heresponded to a question from a husband about his unruly wifesaying the husbandcould become a Muslim so he could beat his wife. Before we left he decided he had had enough and took me to our room and spanked me. On the other hand the very fact that you would use these laws as precedents legitimizing the outlawing of something as personal and initimate as domestic discipline proves on its own that these laws are problematic. Mark 11:26 But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses. Doe you think she have to obey him then as well? Which is another reason that role playing is dangerousOK, Im not good enough for you, but if I dress up as Kim Kardashian, thats OK now?. Ben also has no problem spanking me long after I start to cry. WebJennas Punishment Spanking (Christian Domestic Discipline Marriage #1) During a disagreement, Jenna storms out of the house without telling her husband where she's going. There is no longer a power struggle between two people who both want to be in charge. It is a confession of our dependence on one another and an acceptance of our natural roles.Do you submit to the wishes of your boss? [redacted] said she has become numb to the abuse and did not feel scared, not like in the beginning. But when you come back home, keep in mind that the world is not a war zone. And with those words, The Lone Voice Show is over and Spiritual Sounding Board returns in its channel and time slot. The best part of domestic discipline is what has happened emotionally between this long-time married couple. Testimonials of Loving Domestic Discipline, The role of play in a Christian Domestic Discipline relationship. (Do you know the difference between them?). I imagine the biggest thing other women might be experiencing is that embarrassment, demoralizing, and feeling very disempowered. Ive been thinking about this quite a bit. Christian Domestic Discipline, wife spanking, Christian Patriarchy Movement, Spanking of Adult Children, Denominational Practices and teachings Two summers ago, I received a phone call from a pastor who shared his growing concern about wife-spanking in his family of churches. Take heed then to your spirit, and let no one deal treacherously against the wife of your youth., I think youd be surprised at how educated these people are. Im about the only one here who actually quotes scripture. I can also say , please sir may I go to bed without my nightgown and thats me asking to be intimate, Ben almost always says yes. For this purpose moderation and tolerance are key. Yes, many Muslims and Hindus follow male headship. Its the word of God: For this is what Christianity is about. (the link to their blog is currently on the upper left hand side of the page): When you first commented on here, I was prepared to hear you out I know someone personally who has fetishes, and hes admitted to me that can be a struggle for him in his marriage. Domestic Disciplining is consistent with the natural instincts of men and women which is why it has been practiced for so long, and why it will keep coming back over and over whether you like it or not. There are some real sins out there. States have laws limiting marriage of close relatives. This 3. Please go and speak to a pastor in a completely different church from the one they were in (I should recommend a sister in a Pentecostal church, but thats just my personal suggestion). I see only 3.5% of Americans traveled overseas in 2009 (when the study was done). How else can we understand what we havent gone through, or learn to avoid causing needless suffering to those around us? However, the husbands are commanded to love us.Bottom linemen would rather be respected than loved. Reading this comment section is like reading a handbook of how liberal thinkers (and do not assume that I am a conservative), go about turning people who think differently than them into mentally sick people. I do not want a world in which wife beating makes a come back with rage because people have had enough of having ideology inconsistent with human nature pushed down their throat. 1. Junia was a female apostle who taught men. Its a logical progression. We did not get spanked very much nor did Mom because we knew better than disobey dad. 1Pet 3:1 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; 2 While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear. I submit that, no matter what, 100pinkapples is our sister, and that Lone Voice is not to be received as a brother. One clue to you that your gender role views are un-bilbical is that they only apply to, are often only applied to, middle class, white American married mothers. Dark child, your nickname tells me something about your view. Are you serious? They want to give. I got spanked at home until I left to be with my ex when I was 21. In other words, they have achieved complete dominion over their wives as God commanded of Adam and all husbands in Genesis 3:16. Which only shows exactly where your heart and mind are at. Just to give one example of an alternate interpretation: I understand the phrase he shall rule over thee as a description of one outcome of the Fall, not as a command that would restore things to their proper place. I am surprised that nobody else spoke up about that. The call to statistics to justify that since it has to be abusive most of the time, it would be better to simply outlaw it. If you didnt, you wouldnt have your job for very long, would you?! But through this, the emotional, physical, and mental connections between us are incredible, especially the physical. She really messed up questioning her husbands leadership, our Minister said at Bible study that this had to mean a good spanking or other wives might think they had the right to do this, Ben says that all women need to learn to be humble in the presence of their leaders, and good wives are examples of how God wants us to behave, even when we have to be punished. Other times, I will be simply told that there is a new rule or that I am forbidden to do something. This is the reason tolerance is essential if you want your ideas to pass the test of time. Another thing to bear in mind is that all Domestic Violence services are underfunded so the workers are vevy busy. Muslims and Hindus follow male headship. How are you doing now? As that is what it really boils down to. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me, and you are unwilling to come to Me (John 5.39, 40). Most of the time, my husband is like, Sure, baby. Some men have apparently abused their authority, therefore any men having authority is bad. It doesnt follow. They are, after all, of their father the devil who is known as the accuser of the brethren. the problem with domestic discipline, as with teacher/student sexual assault is that it is improbable that there was true consent. However, this is nothing more than intolerance even if you think you mean well. But just like a chocolate addict will eat carob in moments of dire necessity. Sorry, have not read anything here yet! but if one of them just says No with no explanation or word of compassion then thats fraud. You are, by your writing, an intelligent adult. So, it is meekness, it is not weakness. Bike Bubba @Mark You are convinced that a woman can only be tricked into that kind of relationship, and you have decided to be quite closed minded with this regard to the extent that you think that people who think otherwise are sick. Unless the woman is locked in a basement like something on an episode of CSI Special Victims Unit, she is there by choice. I know it will be very, very enlightening to many people. I guess I fail to see how the one couple in the galaxy that can carry this on consensually should override the millions of women that are in domestically violent relationships. For anything can be labelled an abuse with this method. Twosummers ago, I received a phone call from a pastor who shared his growing concern about wife-spanking in his family of churches. And being insulting doesnt either. How does a Christian man go about introducing Domestic Discipline into his marriage and what techniques actually work? I get the feeling that LV may be a man trying to pass itself off as a woman. At least thats his justification but this is far far more severe than spankings. But she will heal in her own good time none of us can force that on her. Lauren and I exchangede-mails (edited slightly for brevity) and Lauren gave me permission to share with you our conversation,in the hopes that it will help other wives and also shed light on this dark secret in Christianity: BRAVO for you!! He is giving me enough leeway so I am not really stressed about it, and since our test spank, I know what Im in for if I fail. In fact, if such anger is not expressed, it must be suppressedonly to come out sidewise at some unexpected time. 1 Peter 3:7. It was there that I met Christ and started down my path to happiness. The professionals in DV services are trained (or should be trained!) Please go and speak to a pastor in a completely different church from the one they were in (I should recommend a sister in a Pentecostal church, but thats just my personal suggestion) and I know you will get more than a sympathetic ear. I think its reasonable to suggest that people choosing this lifestyle put much more thinking into their relationships and are more intellectually alert than the average person going the default way. And he would sometimes spout off this genteel junk about how men should be nice to ladies. Slander and lies are his stock and trade and so it is with his children. Im not prepared to claim that lonely wolf is a child of the devil, but I do suggest that there is plenty of reason for the exercise of discernment. To say that I consented to be spanked, or to say that even an adult woman consents to being spanked simply because she remains in that situation is to make a mockery of the word consent. . Women would rather be loved than respected. Your testimonial will be added to this blog so that other people can benefit from and be inspired by your experiences with Christian Domestic Discipline. 1986)., Yeah, it even helps to read an interlinear every now and then and do a bit of Greek/Hebrew study. Plausible? I did go back and find the entire 700 club episode from that day and InContext it was very understandable. I met Ben, my husband, at a work function, and when I found out he was a Christian agreed to go out with him. The clip is just over one minute long: After reading Laurens letter and sharing back and forth e-mails, I had so many questions. Modern psychology approves a surgeon cutting off a guys penis, surgically creating a fake vagina, and will then prescribe estrogen hormones for the dude to look like a lady. Women werent squelched when they were told to TELL MEN that Jesus had resurrected.

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